Taunton0412
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maybe they need to totally remove all accuracy from warriors then you thick ass idiot. try playing a wizard and see if you think the same. i have all 3 classes and a fair balance is required. Stop being a tool !!!
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what are you talking about? theres a reason the majority of the richest and quickest lvling are wizzards and its not because they off in 2s and 3s t storming or flame fielding or coping together. maybe not now with changes but before a lvl 155 wizzard could clear areas faster and easier then me 20 lvls higher then him with op kit and him being in some crystal gear. explain to me about balance again. or smacking a wizzard 20 lvls below you with 1700 dc and it still takes several hits to rev while your sustaining damage from multiple attacks and cop then he just translocates away and it restarts again. when its to a point you go to the hardest dungeon like zt and your suppose to be the lurer and tanker as a warrior and u hide inside there frozen ground while they clear everything and do the luring by themselves and u just spam frost frenzy to feel useful something is not balanced.
Sounds like you built the wrong kit. Pdr reduces damage only. Ur still gonna take the same amount of hits. If you want your shield to last longer you need to build a AC/AMC agility/resistance kit. Them stats will make hits from mobs completely miss therefore increasing ur shield time.
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Wars have to use hp regen torch and rejuvenation stone You’ll have to use rejuv stone and mpr torch
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Suddenly magicas kit doesn’t look so silly anymore
there are allready wizars with all that AC/AMC/ agility/res )))))))))))))) and they had the same results
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Taunton0412
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Its not a case of being complacent. In orcs the bastards run off and bring there mates back with them. So either way you fked lol. Its unhuntable on a wiz even with a group. wizards are supposed to be able to mass kill, they aren't 1 mob at a time class. I personally couldn't give a flying fk if things dont get changed back. i'll just move onto another server like the rest if these issues aren't addressed like everyone else who has jumped ship. Seems only certain players get listened too on here and changes seem to get made to accustom those players opinions tbh. Take DS as an example crying few weeks back about wizards shields etc, then boom update wizards get screwed over. Now they winging already about taos. Lets all just be thick ass warriors think its their given right to be able to solo every boss in game
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My kit on my wiz is very balanced, pdr, mdr ice and fire.with decent agility ac and amc etc. Its nothing to do with kit its about altering stuff that didnt really ned it doing so drastically. i vote remove warriors accuracy, lets see how u get on without that.
Its not a case of being complacent. In orcs the bastards run off and bring there mates back with them. So either way you fked lol. Its unhuntable on a wiz even with a group. wizards are supposed to be able to mass kill, they aren't 1 mob at a time class. I personally couldn't give a flying fk if things dont get changed back. i'll just move onto another server like the rest if these issues aren't addressed like everyone else who has jumped ship. Seems only certain players get listened too on here and changes seem to get made to accustom those players opinions tbh. Take DS as an example crying few weeks back about wizards shields etc, then boom update wizards get screwed over. Now they winging already about taos. Lets all just be thick ass warriors think its their given right to be able to solo every boss in game
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My kit on my wiz is very balanced, pdr, mdr ice and fire.with decent agility ac and amc etc. Its nothing to do with kit its about altering stuff that didnt really ned it doing so drastically. i vote remove warriors accuracy, lets see how u get on without that.
Pdr and mdr now have a massively negative effect on shield. U need to miss the hits to make shield last longer. Pdr mdr don’t make hits miss. So ur shield is gonna drop fast in damage reduction kit. Agility won’t make mobs miss until it’s 220+ which I doubt any wizard has right now.
Ac and agility when maxed out are EXTREMELY STRONG vs mobs.
Orcs ranged mobs hit with DC so the massive ac and agility will also make them completely miss.
Its not a case of being complacent. In orcs the bastards run off and bring there mates back with them. So either way you fked lol. Its unhuntable on a wiz even with a group. wizards are supposed to be able to mass kill, they aren't 1 mob at a time class. I personally couldn't give a flying fk if things dont get changed back. i'll just move onto another server like the rest if these issues aren't addressed like everyone else who has jumped ship. Seems only certain players get listened too on here and changes seem to get made to accustom those players opinions tbh. Take DS as an example crying few weeks back about wizards shields etc, then boom update wizards get screwed over. Now they winging already about taos. Lets all just be thick ass warriors think its their given right to be able to solo every boss in game
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My kit on my wiz is very balanced, pdr, mdr ice and fire.with decent agility ac and amc etc. Its nothing to do with kit its about altering stuff that didnt really ned it doing so drastically. i vote remove warriors accuracy, lets see how u get on without that.
I would vote for that DDDD
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It's unfortunate that this is the case. Building kit is not an easy (or cheap GG/££ wise) regardless. It's a shame that this update has caused such an issue.
I appreciate that Scorp does testing, and also relies on our feedback for changes. Hopefully the feedback from wizzies on this thread will help revert the change to an extent.
Unfortunately, I have invested a lot of time and £ into creating the kit I have now (as many people have), to suddenly require a whole new kit is not a feasible option for me. As per Nerd, Meph & others on this thread - I'll have to use this as an excuse to stop playing this server.
For now I'll take a break and see if there are any fixes, but I know even if this was to be fixed, it wouldn't be done too soon. Until then, it's been fun.
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I really do like you and respect you, but when wars were complaining about PDR a while back after they use to go all DC/FD i remember Nerd and them saying we needed to re do our kits also and adapt. and Now its slightly reversed and there quitting. Might not have anything to do with the shield i think its more to do with the same game with different rules now. I think if content and lvl 4 skills and ancient items would of been released at the same time i dont think we would be seeing this kind of fallout. as it is, its a significant change and were all still trudging water with the same caves same items etc. Hope to c ya around
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I appreciate what you're saying mate. For me - the PDR thing was always about PK, never PVE, and a lot of it was comparing the top 1% of players fighting eachother with kits that most people don't get to have or even experiment with. I TT and also die plenty of times in PK, with and without a max PDR kit. So I never fully understood the complaints. As soon as I got caught, whilst PDR may help me live a bit longer - it'd still be fooked if I got para'd or if a warr my level caught me. And if you know me in-game, you'll know that I enjoy group PK as part of the game, but I'm really just here to enjoy Mir.
The shield issue takes the final part of the game away for me. I can't solo bosses at level 178 without spending a considerable time killing them, or with pets, which leaves me open to constant PK / boss theft (happens to me all the time). And the pets I get are either from ship, which is once a week, or from ZT which now is not somewhere I can rely on due to the shield issue.
The area we really excelled in for PVE (at least for me) was leveling / COP'in a big bunch of mobs. When a shield drops as fast as it does now in a mob, you don't have time to reshield. As others have mentioned, in Orc / ZT the hits are far too many, which drops the shield far too soon - and as soon as it drops you get butt raped. In Orc I can barely use my spells in a mob because of the constant slapping that goes on.
I appreciate Mir works best as a group hunt / as a team - that's how I was always used to it over the last ~15 years playing. But with a server count of 50-70 (of which I counted 26 store / stall chars the other day) there is very little team hunting unless you are on at the right time for a single hunt.
I truly with the player count was higher, as I think a lot of issues could be helped by that - but obviously that's easier said than done.
Appreciate all the fun I've had since October on the server, even with those who have pk'd me - I'll try level a warrior on-and-off when I'm bored, but for now my wiz is redundant.
deanouk23
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Ain't no kit you can adapt to in order to make shield work.
Hp way too low for an ac build on a wiz. Stack ac and a red/blue will still 100% 1 or 2 hit you the minute shield fell. Depending on the mob as realistic ac levels would never reach a number to prevent that, coupled with the poor hp a wiz has. Agil may well help but not sufficient enough to be a worthwhile build.
All along my point for warrior was they can be just as tanky as a wiz, which a couple have done with fire res builds and mdr. Scorp didn't come along and make warriors die in 1 hit in order to force them to rebuild tho? Warriors complained they couldn't pk a wiz, I said make fire res you can out sustain a wiz long enough to get rid of them. Instead of building glass cannon 2k dc with no res and no hp. Wiz damage is pants because we are forced to build mass amounts of defence in order to live, there's a huge difference between both scenarios lol.
Some times the logic has to fit. I can safely say no amount of new content would of made me play with the changes added.
I've never understood the yolo attitude. With huge changes that happen surely smaller more reasonable changes over a period of time is the correct way to find a balance.
I'll be honest tho, the damage has been done, there's now no benefit to undoing what's been done.
From what I can see with the players who have left or are leaving there's now going to be a very one sided server, which in turn will force more people to leave eventually.
Remember when bloodlust fucked up and warriors was on here crying they couldn't do anything. That's no different to the effect shield has for us wiz.
There's no defending what's happend, I mean any changes that impact on user count will eventually impact on those who still play also.
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deanouk23
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The pace of the game is way too quick for the changes. Basically any time a wiz is in a hunting area, your free items or instantly sat in town. That quickly becomes no fun.
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Gone back to Xbox while I wait for Mir to pick up again, guild level and stability has dropped, hardly anyone on the server, took ages for new skills to be put in game to find out that they are all high level skills, Mirroring used to be a noob skill. Probably be waiting a long time now for an event to happen.
Gutted because I got back into mir after having a year off and now I'm off mir again because it's dead and boring.
Gutted because I got back into mir after having a year off and now I'm off mir again because it's dead and boring.
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deanouk23
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Doesn't have the same meaning unless it's "QQ" 2 crying eyes. Yours looks more like a speech impediment.
Going to miss you the most Wummy. Our little heart to hearts and the wonderful chats we have had.
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Yes, you may be the only one. And you may be the only one wizz in game)))). Duno exactly how FB wizards feel, but in Horde so far Nerd, Meph, NewWalker, Jewitt, Aelin, Poffer quit.
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Lol i didnt get that
Well, pretty disappointed in people's attitudes. It's a hell of a lot easier for us to simply patch over things and continue getting more and more extreme than to make the difficult decisions and to really try solve the balance issues. Which ironically you guys have been hounding us to do.
There was absolutely no point in the old magic shield as a spell. It may as well have been base stat. Which begs the question, if it was, are you still a wizard?
Granted things have gotten harder for you and things once possible may now be out of reach, that must be really frustrating and if you are on the verge of leaving then I'm sure that will push you over the edge. Addressing one issue may indeed raise two more, but that was the whole point in this process and I hoped you were in it with us for the better of the server.
Lesson learnt.
There was absolutely no point in the old magic shield as a spell. It may as well have been base stat. Which begs the question, if it was, are you still a wizard?
Granted things have gotten harder for you and things once possible may now be out of reach, that must be really frustrating and if you are on the verge of leaving then I'm sure that will push you over the edge. Addressing one issue may indeed raise two more, but that was the whole point in this process and I hoped you were in it with us for the better of the server.
Lesson learnt.
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