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Announcement Reboot for Bank Holiday Event and Karma Fixes

You do know that PvE players also grind kit, right?

Kit that might not be quite as OP as yours, but you are quite happy to take from them having killed them after a nano second of interaction?
Well its there decision to fight me back or no they are not being forced to fight if they are afraid of droping there iteams like if i am a pker its not i will win always i am risking my kit more then you now this karma thing came up you know when your karma is low there is alot of chance you drop something rare from your kit thats why we came here asking for make it same as it was like wtf we defending our castle and our karma wents down and in the next war there is fully chance of you droping as far as you dont die so it has to be changed
 
I can see both sides of it, I understand there are a lot of pro-pk people, some put a lot of money in, some don't. But from Andy's perspective he will see a number of pve players who have put money in then quit because they feel harassed by pk

It's like fishermen catching too many fish then complaining that there's no fish left, then complaining again when restrictions on how much fish they can catch get introduced.

The community has had plenty opportunity to regulate itself, and be reasonable, but it's all been spoiled by a small handful of players who relentlessly hunt down players who have no desire to be involved in pvp. It doesn't have to black and white, nobody is saying don't pk. But when I see valued members of the community who have put a lot of time and money in abandoning the game because some individuals are determined to ruin their experience, that's not self regulation at all, that's just bullying.

At the end of the day, there's no perfect solution one-size-fits-all answer to make everyone happy, but the changes have been made with the intention to reduce that kind of behaviour. It's unfortunately gone too far and is negatively affecting a lot more people than deserve it, so I definitely think some adjustments are needed which I do hope GM is looking into closely.

That said, if the finger needs pointed at anyone for sending the server in this direction, it's the people who gain pleasure from ruining other people's fun. If pkers fight other pkers then none of this would happen, nobody wants to discourage that. And the occasional pk on someone you find while out hunting, fair enough. But that's not what happens. It's the relentless harassment of pve players that's the problem. The people I'm talking about know who they are. They are the ones to blame here. The over-fishers.
Well if thats the case i know who the over-fishers are and if the server is going that way i think we dont mind rather its the karma think or showing me low karma in my map info am good now i wanna see how it gonna effect does it will reduce pk in game or will be same as it is but from my side am not gonna stop if i drop my whole kit i dont care i will buy a kit from shop and start same thing because thats how i play from 2009 till this day and good luck everyone
 
Well its there decision to fight me back or no they are not being forced to fight if they are afraid of droping there iteams like if i am a pker its not i will win always i am risking my kit more then you now this karma thing came up you know when your karma is low there is alot of chance you drop something rare from your kit thats why we came here asking for make it same as it was like wtf we defending our castle and our karma wents down and in the next war there is fully chance of you droping as far as you dont die so it has to be changed

You are Vic?

It was the irony of Vic (if you are Vic) moaning about dropping items that struck me.

Vic is one of the players that will relentlessly (and disturbingly) RT around to follow another player.

When you speak of 'decision to fight me back' you make it sound like its a fair thing.

Vic seems to hunt in 3's these days (Ryzen, Claymore and Vic). Engage another player 1 v 1 with Ryzen and then if it looks like the other player is getting the upper hand, tele in the other 2.

If I am defending my castles then my Karma has been trashed too - how do you think that feels to a player that doesn't PK?

However, I do agree with you, Karma shouldn't be trashed due to participation in wars and I hope GM changes it soon.
 
You are Vic?

It was the irony of Vic (if you are Vic) moaning about dropping items that struck me.

Vic is one of the players that will relentlessly (and disturbingly) RT around to follow another player.

When you speak of 'decision to fight me back' you make it sound like its a fair thing.

Vic seems to hunt in 3's these days (Ryzen, Claymore and Vic). Engage another player 1 v 1 with Ryzen and then if it looks like the other player is getting the upper hand, tele in the other 2.

If I am defending my castles then my Karma has been trashed too - how do you think that feels to a player that doesn't PK?

However, I do agree with you, Karma shouldn't be trashed due to participation in wars and I hope GM changes it soon.
Thats how it works it’s open game its not 2 car are racing how wins and others cant join if my friend is losing in tao he ask am there for him make sure you get a buddy who stands for you or make me friend 😂
 
Low karma should also burn duras faster
Everyone uses dura pots anyway. Maybe a time penalty on pots, -10% -20% -30% etc. for the worst offenders

I think the key though is that castle wars shouldn't affect individual karma, it's wild that people who are generally mostly pve, get absolutely hammered for defending a castle!
 
When I first got hunted down and pked. The next time I got hunted down I could literally feel my blood pressure going through the roof 🤣😬

It's not the end of the world for most players, but like has been said here already, you get stalked, you get bosses stolen they just want for you to start on the boss then fly in and attack you while your already battling low health. It's just cowards tactics really and some have taken it too far bullying really and so now pkers are getting punished.


I'd imagine there is far more people who don't pk spending money than those that do.

Striking the right balance 👌
Some of the tactics are wild. One cracker is the pkers actually pming you to tell you a certain boss is available, and waiting nearby with a team ready to be recalled on you if you go along. It doesn't happen to me any more because they've learned that I don't bite, but it used to, and I know it still happens to others.
 
Thats how it works it’s open game its not 2 car are racing how wins and others cant join if my friend is losing in tao he ask am there for him make sure you get a buddy who stands for you or make me friend 😂
You're the guy who screams down the middle lane in his BMW 318d and claims the win over a guy in a Porsche that was doing the speed limit on his way to work. If you want to race, go to a race track and race other racers. But you'd rather race people who aren't actually racing so you can feel superior. It's quite a shame really that you feel the need to do that.
 
Also it's not even about being pked that's the issue for me, I don't get loads of game time these days
For the record I am 10+ years on this server also and like Popcorn also thousands spent, I don't spend as much now a days but that directly reflects the amount of time I'm now able to play.

I have never minded PK until this year, I have participated in it and enjoyed it in the past. However nowadays I enjoy bounties and quiet guild hunts more.

If I stray out of a PVE map for a bounty or guild hunt I usually have Vic on me within 30mins, I almost always instant TT but sometimes I will fight back due to shear frustration. There has been occasions where Vic has turned up on the same map at my same cords in different caves almost a dozen times in an hour, in this example he attempted to engage in pk every time and I instant TT'd. I am obviously not a willing participant in PVP in open world, leave me the fk alone I find it a bit pathetic that you keep trying to play with me, I don't want to play with you I don't want to be your pvp friend.

Would love to see an opt out / opt in pvp option available in Mir which we could turn off or on at anytime.

Pop has stated he could leave due to pk being discouraged, I am very close to leaving due to this harassment, I have logged in had Vic on me within minutes (<10), logged off and went to bed too many times to count lately that its getting hard to log in.
 
If will give my opinion fairly here , would say deffo mir big part of it is pk and cant be parted from it , as u do grinding exp , makes best kits to be powerfull enough to compete , i do under stand some other just want to relax after work and smash some mobs , but deffo pk is soul of mir , it cant set punishments over players doing aim of the game , but i do clearly see whats the main issue here its deffo about '' Those coward high lvl players who targeting much lower lvl than them in aim to make '' repuition '' to them selves while they getting rekt from other high lvls players'' thats the problem here '' so i think this karma and aura should be fixed as it goes in opposte direction and it have nothing with those crap players , its proper to set instead punishment for those crap high lvl players who do targeting lower lvls in aim to just trolling in fourm they clearly know them selves , and last i would suggest to make challanges for pk to full fill players enjoyment on this part , and i think from challanges it will help to reduce , those high lvl crap players to aim targeting lower ones .
 
Well its there decision to fight me back or no they are not being forced to fight if they are afraid of droping there iteams like if i am a pker its not i will win always i am risking my kit more then you now this karma thing came up you know when your karma is low there is alot of chance you drop something rare from your kit thats why we came here asking for make it same as it was like wtf we defending our castle and our karma wents down and in the next war there is fully chance of you droping as far as you dont die so it has to be changed
You say "they are not being forced to fight" but they absolutely are. The only options are fight you, or hunt in somewhere that's not as good to hunt in, or just leave the game.

That's not a choice anyone should have to make. You are lying to yourself if you think you aren't forcing people.

It was that kind of attitude that drove me to give up on wiz. Wiz is my favourite class but I got fed up every time I went levelling people (you included) would find me and just kill my pets, didn't even try to kill me, just went for the pets first. Nothing whatsoever for you to gain, it was purely to piss me off and make you feel good about yourself. So now I only use wiz in safe caves in events for levelling, and I use it at castle wars, that's pretty much it, and I play tao the rest of the time.

Your goal is to make others miserable and leave the game so you can feel superior. In my view, that just makes you a prick
 
For the record I am 10+ years on this server also and like Popcorn also thousands spent, I don't spend as much now a days but that directly reflects the amount of time I'm now able to play.

I have never minded PK until this year, I have participated in it and enjoyed it in the past. However nowadays I enjoy bounties and quiet guild hunts more.

If I stray out of a PVE map for a bounty or guild hunt I usually have Vic on me within 30mins, I almost always instant TT but sometimes I will fight back due to shear frustration. There has been occasions where Vic has turned up on the same map at my same cords in different caves almost a dozen times in an hour, in this example he attempted to engage in pk every time and I instant TT'd. I am obviously not a willing participant in PVP in open world, leave me the fk alone I find it a bit pathetic that you keep trying to play with me, I don't want to play with you I don't want to be your pvp friend.

Would love to see an opt out / opt in pvp option available in Mir which we could turn off or on at anytime.

Pop has stated he could leave due to pk being discouraged, I am very close to leaving due to this harassment, I have logged in had Vic on me within minutes (<10), logged off and went to bed too many times to count lately that its getting hard to log in.
There's already multiple people who have spent a lot of money and then quit because of Vic harassing them in exactly the way you describe.

Nasir is utterly delusional if he thinks "everyone" wants pk, it's not even the majority, I'd say quite confidently that there is more money spent by pve players than there is by pvp players
 
For the record I am 10+ years on this server also and like Popcorn also thousands spent, I don't spend as much now a days but that directly reflects the amount of time I'm now able to play.

I have never minded PK until this year, I have participated in it and enjoyed it in the past. However nowadays I enjoy bounties and quiet guild hunts more.

If I stray out of a PVE map for a bounty or guild hunt I usually have Vic on me within 30mins, I almost always instant TT but sometimes I will fight back due to shear frustration. There has been occasions where Vic has turned up on the same map at my same cords in different caves almost a dozen times in an hour, in this example he attempted to engage in pk every time and I instant TT'd. I am obviously not a willing participant in PVP in open world, leave me the fk alone I find it a bit pathetic that you keep trying to play with me, I don't want to play with you I don't want to be your pvp friend.

Would love to see an opt out / opt in pvp option available in Mir which we could turn off or on at anytime.

Pop has stated he could leave due to pk being discouraged, I am very close to leaving due to this harassment, I have logged in had Vic on me within minutes (<10), logged off and went to bed too many times to count lately that its getting hard to log in.

Sorry you get grief Aro. I enjoyed playing alongside you in Dragons. I don't think it much consolation that we are not alone, maybe take a degree of comfort that we are still both here?

The silly thing is that if anyone leaves over the war Karma change then I believe they are leaving due to a bug. I honestly don't believe that GM intends this and it will soon be sorted.

I do think, however, the map count change for those with low Karma is here to stay (and rightly so).

Can't agree with you regarding PvP and PvE flagging. Although this works in other games it is very clear that the majority of the PKers on this server wouldn't support such a change. Look at the furore over bound kit (that could still be dropped, and was very level limited...)
 
Aro saying that i reach to him in 30mins my friend i dont take anything personally i do hunt often like i said thousand times i check Map +1 find if friend leave if no PK thats it you saying harassment grief like i would wait when aro will b online when he will go hunt when i will pk no mate its not that way i hunt bosses when ever i go i check map if there is someone i try to find you guys putting everything on me like its only me who pk and no one else problem is my mates don’t complain here like you guys doing you can ask any Apex member any Iflyu member how immortal and templar all time pked them in Bug cave no one say anything about that because out peoples dont complain they know how game works if you in a guild who pks other guild but if i pk immortal or an allied guild of immortal they pretend like i wait whole day for them to log in and leave sz and i go start finding and pk no its not that way ask any apex ir iflyu members they were lvl 160+ in bug cave lvling like you guys say lvling in peace thats why they were doing and not one not two 4 or5 members of immortals boom recalled and pking nub chars trying to stop them from lvling not once not twice many time more then you can say 20 times dose any one complained no one and i dont pk pve guilds you can ask Thelegends 420elites many more i dont pk them how you guys blaming me that half server left because of me if you dont like me go DM gm tell him we dont like these peoples can you please do something dont act like i log and went hunting and boom in 30mins vic came say hello darling where you been i was waiting ok now lets pk total bullish
 
Some of the tactics are wild. One cracker is the pkers actually pming you to tell you a certain boss is available, and waiting nearby with a team ready to be recalled on you if you go along. It doesn't happen to me any more because they've learned that I don't bite, but it used to, and I know it still happens to others.
I do this haha
 
Aro saying that i reach to him in 30mins my friend i dont take anything personally i do hunt often like i said thousand times i check Map +1 find if friend leave if no PK thats it you saying harassment grief like i would wait when aro will b online when he will go hunt when i will pk no mate its not that way i hunt bosses when ever i go i check map if there is someone i try to find you guys putting everything on me like its only me who pk and no one else problem is my mates don’t complain here like you guys doing you can ask any Apex member any Iflyu member how immortal and templar all time pked them in Bug cave no one say anything about that because out peoples dont complain they know how game works if you in a guild who pks other guild but if i pk immortal or an allied guild of immortal they pretend like i wait whole day for them to log in and leave sz and i go start finding and pk no its not that way ask any apex ir iflyu members they were lvl 160+ in bug cave lvling like you guys say lvling in peace thats why they were doing and not one not two 4 or5 members of immortals boom recalled and pking nub chars trying to stop them from lvling not once not twice many time more then you can say 20 times dose any one complained no one and i dont pk pve guilds you can ask Thelegends 420elites many more i dont pk them how you guys blaming me that half server left because of me if you dont like me go DM gm tell him we dont like these peoples can you please do something dont act like i log and went hunting and boom in 30mins vic came say hello darling where you been i was waiting ok now lets pk total bullish

Not saying for one moment that Imms don't PK Vic (just like iFly and Legacy try to PK me).

Not saying for one moment that PK isn't part of the game.

All I know is that, in my experiences, Vic is the only player that continually teles around a map looking for me.

If I bump into Ammar, one on one he will try to PK me (we are enemy guild) but he then moves onto something else.

I suspect he has better things to do. The character 'Vic' appears not to have.

I have read players such as taoloaf (the most inoffensive player I have ever met and 100% PvE) complain about Vic trying to pk them. You either have a short memory or maybe being a biked character has its downsides?
 
I can name about 50 people/friends - all high level/good money contributors, super nice and helpful DECENT people who have quit because of Vic. The man is a pixelated cancer. I imagine the user count would be wild high numbers without him around.
 
Aro saying that i reach to him in 30mins my friend i dont take anything personally i do hunt often like i said thousand times i check Map +1 find if friend leave if no PK thats it you saying harassment grief like i would wait when aro will b online when he will go hunt when i will pk no mate its not that way i hunt bosses when ever i go i check map if there is someone i try to find you guys putting everything on me like its only me who pk and no one else problem is my mates don’t complain here like you guys doing you can ask any Apex member any Iflyu member how immortal and templar all time pked them in Bug cave no one say anything about that because out peoples dont complain they know how game works if you in a guild who pks other guild but if i pk immortal or an allied guild of immortal they pretend like i wait whole day for them to log in and leave sz and i go start finding and pk no its not that way ask any apex ir iflyu members they were lvl 160+ in bug cave lvling like you guys say lvling in peace thats why they were doing and not one not two 4 or5 members of immortals boom recalled and pking nub chars trying to stop them from lvling not once not twice many time more then you can say 20 times dose any one complained no one and i dont pk pve guilds you can ask Thelegends 420elites many more i dont pk them how you guys blaming me that half server left because of me if you dont like me go DM gm tell him we dont like these peoples can you please do something dont act like i log and went hunting and boom in 30mins vic came say hello darling where you been i was waiting ok now lets pk total bullish
What he says about PVE guilds is true (from my own experience). I am in TheLegends and have had numerous interactions with Vic while out lvling, every time he has been cool and never once tried to PK me.
 
The game cannot go in PVE favor this will ruin the whole concept of MIR. Pk has been part of the game since it was introduced. Leave that mechanism the way it has always been. sort this karma nonsense and put the karma reading back in MW pk village as it was originally. Regards this player count thing “M” this advantage should have never been introduced in first place. Fact that you gave them this advantage will be very hard to take back. for some it’s a game changer.
 
What he says about PVE guilds is true (from my own experience). I am in TheLegends and have had numerous interactions with Vic while out lvling, every time he has been cool and never once tried to PK me.
No one will read your message mate here only those messages are allow that mentions vic grief plays half server left because of vic bla bla bla
 
The game cannot go in PVE favor this will ruin the whole concept of MIR. Pk has been part of the game since it was introduced. Leave that mechanism the way it has always been. sort this karma nonsense and put the karma reading back in MW pk village as it was originally. Regards this player count thing “M” this advantage should have never been introduced in first place. Fact that you gave them this advantage will be very hard to take back. for some it’s a game changer.
Instead of focusing on negative points for pk why not look at it as if why shouldn't people be rewarded for not being a PKer? Seeing player count on map for a non pk player is useful, if its busy he goes elsewhere for better exp.

PK is still part of the game, it's a choice as it always has been. The karma feature being changed so it actually means something is really good.
 
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