Elysian ore.

[Frankleemad]

With the influx of ely armours recently, a lot of people are looking to upgrade, and with bdp and rdd constantly locked that isnt a possibility.

You don't want casual players to have a chance at the game? they'll just go elsewhere and spend their money elsewhere.

At the moment, the issue at hand is the lack of ability for SOLO players to obtain any chance at upgrading their ely kit.

-You can't solo rdd or bdd to get ore. Fact.

-You can't solo epics without a guild of appropriate level. Fact.

That excludes anyone who plays on off timezones or doesn't have a guild from ever progressing in the game with decent kit. Why play at that point?

Honestly the above would be ok if the only "normal" upgrade quests were abit easier to get, but the only way to upgrade everything above EM weaps/Armour is to bribe and spend stupid amounts of gg so this with the above mixed together has most people put off. i dont want to have a kit like peopel that play 24/7 i just want to have a kit to play the game lol. if GM adds more harder content it will be for the sweaty players.

 

[Gritt]

I play devils advocate here , I try and help people when and where I can , give stuff away try and explain things show things to new players etc etc ,
However its become quite apparent that as always in the past a void between new and old is a greater gear wise sometimes its luck sometimes its effort and more often or not bit of gg thrown in aswell , exp no so much there are plenty of mechanics to reward with exp just needs time . recent events have brought in new set items xmas saw a huge infulx of ely gear , this has really effected the gg flow of those who prevoiulsy hunted and killed harder subs and after a few months grind finally get an item worth selling for some gg , Now the gg I earn is very low so have to pay for gg even more now than say 6 months ago , The fact is yes you got an Ely weapon or armour drop at xmas or picked up cheap or were given it by a m8 etc doesnt automatically mean the server should upgrade it overnight for you .................(sorry for those who been trying for last 6-9 months i feell your pain)
That being said there is a lack of solo high level content that allows the completeion of the items . weapon and armour of the Elysian persuasion , peoples rl commitments work times international time zones etc etc . However shard mechcanic may help but I feel unless there is like a daily solo cave bit like gg cave for quest drops you be back at square 1 , as if for example you have shards in elysian caves what will happen you get it flooded by everyone 190 plus hunting shards - less mobs more hassle etc etc and in the long run it will be the same people over and over again farming it on thier many BIKES ...In teams etc

a few suggestions
1) Daily Solo cave for highten exp and quest related to lvl or selected questline 1 cave per account per day
2)Small group hunt caves with an every decreasing timer must consist of 1 of each of the 3 heroes to enter weekly scoreboard , form a team for points .... lvl brackets .....
3)World PVP map with objectives to capture or carry the flag etc weekly 1 time , no allies guild verus guild team must be formed 24hrs before hand no guild swapping etc - reward Victors chest -- gold bars etc etc and a weekly buff for guild members
4)New caves where the new Bosses/Subs are not timered or in a KR and not announced, maps,, that have infinate pass gates once gate activated only that team can pass through it or if a teammeber goes through only that gate shifts all team to the new point - shifts you to random room in the maps - Gate Room area you may recall but no where else , gives chance for new loggers etc to join your team , this would encourage group hunting , would elviate the rush rush kill a boss senerio ... also and some chance back in the game , the feeling of coming across a boss unxepected always gave me a feeling excitement... team leader can set a quest path on entry eg enchanted mineral , meaning a slighly higher expectation of these dropping but no garauntee ......

 

[Alsiral]

Make Ely ore char bound And add to drops of Ely mobs, job done

 

[UnKnownAngel]

Takes away the achievement of upgrading/Ely orb items though doesn't. It becomes easy and then people will start asking for something new.

Why if something is locked behind group content should it also be available as solo content? Where does that assumption come from, there's loads of stuff to do for solo players, I'm solo nearly all the time lol

 

[zad48231]

You don't want casual players to have a chance at the game? they'll just go elsewhere and spend their money elsewhere.

This is the part of your post I take issue with.

Not being able to complete end-game content is absolutely not the same as not having a chance at the game.

There's thousands of hours of enjoyable content available without ever seeing or thinking about ely ore. It's absolutely not a requirement.

If you want to obtain it, that's your choice, you choose to aim for endgame achievements, you have to accept that to reach those achievements you need to be committed.

A casual player can wear an elysian armour and enjoy it, craft it, socket it, orb it. The upgrade quests are completely non-essential.

 

[THEFMTT]

This conversation is obviously a waste of time, nothing will get done as some high end donators will get very upset, i`ll prob log on time to time to help my guild and a bit of banter but i have accepted my fate in defeat in regards to Elysium Ores.

FYI, these exact reasons in this topic, is why the server is dead during non events and please do not embarrass yourself and try to say otherwise.

 

[zad48231]

This conversation is obviously a waste of time, nothing will get done as some high end donators will get very upset, i`ll prob log on time to time to help my guild and a bit of banter but i have accepted my fate in defeat in regards to Elysium Ores.

FYI, these exact reasons in this topic, is why the server is dead during non events and please do not embarrass yourself and try to say otherwise.

I feel like that's aimed at me, please correct me if I made a wrong assumption there.

If you consider me a "high end donator", maybe I am maybe I'm not, but it's irrelevant to the topic of this conversation as I've never bought an ely orb. I've fully upgraded 1 armour and made 2 ely orbs and have 1 large ore in store (total of about 300 ores), probably about 2/3 of them are from group hunts while I was in a large active guild, and about 1/3 are from solo.

Now that I am playing more casually and in a solo guild I have accepted that I will not be able to make any more, and I am focusing more on things that are achievable for me. Ely orbs are the pinnacle of endgame achievements, it would be ridiculous of me to expect to make more of them with my current level of activity and interaction.

 

[UnKnownAngel]

This conversation is obviously a waste of time, nothing will get done as some high end donators will get very upset, i`ll prob log on time to time to help my guild and a bit of banter but i have accepted my fate in defeat in regards to Elysium Ores.

FYI, these exact reasons in this topic, is why the server is dead during non events and please do not embarrass yourself and try to say otherwise.

I am risking embarrassing myself here but I don't see the link between ElysianOre and the user count.

 

[zad48231]

I am risking embarrassing myself here but I don't see the link between ElysianOre and the user count.

If anything, I truly believe it's the opposite. Imagine how many of the 24/7 players would give up and quit if suddenly someone who plays for 5 minutes can get everything they've worked their asses off to achieve. That would be more of a loss to the server than a handful of casual players who refuse to accept that some content simply isn't aimed at them

 

[mundo1]

With the influx of ely armours recently, a lot of people are looking to upgrade, and with bdp and rdd constantly locked that isnt a possibility.

You don't want casual players to have a chance at the game? they'll just go elsewhere and spend their money elsewhere.

At the moment, the issue at hand is the lack of ability for SOLO players to obtain any chance at upgrading their ely kit.

-You can't solo rdd or bdd to get ore. Fact.

-You can't solo epics without a guild of appropriate level. Fact.

That excludes anyone who plays on off timezones or doesn't have a guild from ever progressing in the game with decent kit. Why play at that point?

I can see what he's saying . Nothing good should come easy . A lot of the regular player base have spent years building their kits . I do get both sides of the argument and it's hard to find the balance . I just think maybe things like epics should maybe go by how many players are in the group . If only 3 people need ore then give 3 ores if there 8 players then give 8 ores again easy to say it but to implement it without players exploiting is another thing .

 

[mundo1]

In regards to solo players obtaining ores . There is events . And plenty of helpful guilds around . It is an online game after all . I'm sure if you reach out to one of the guilds they will help you if you objective is to obtain ores.
Very few players in game can solo BDP for ores . It isn't impossible it's just very time consuming .

 

[zad48231]

I can see what he's saying . Nothing good should come easy . A lot of the regular player base have spent years building their kits . I do get both sides of the argument and it's hard to find the balance . I just think maybe things like epics should maybe go by how many players are in the group . If only 3 people need ore then give 3 ores if there 8 players then give 8 ores again easy to say it but to implement it without players exploiting is another thing .

That's pretty much how it used to work and it was definitely better in theory, but a particular group of players exploited it so much it had to be changed to the new system which is fairer because those who put the most work in get the most reward. But that isn't satisfying for some people who want the rewards without the work

 

[zad48231]

In regards to solo players obtaining ores . There is events . And plenty of helpful guilds around . It is an online game after all . I'm sure if you reach out to one of the guilds they will help you if you objective is to obtain ores.
Very few players in game can solo BDP for ores . It isn't impossible it's just very time consuming .

Agree, it is very hard work but I have proven it is possible. I can play 2 characters at the same time in BDP with nobody else and finish 4F by the time limit, I've had a few ores this way but not a lot and it is quite exhausting

 

[mundo1]

Agree, it is very hard work but I have proven it is possible. I can play 2 characters at the same time in BDP with nobody else and finish 4F by the time limit, I've had a few ores this way but not a lot and it is quite exhausting

Yeah should rephrase it only very few people have that amount of time on their hands to want to do it .

 

[THEFMTT]

I feel like that's aimed at me, please correct me if I made a wrong assumption there.

If you consider me a "high end donator", maybe I am maybe I'm not, but it's irrelevant to the topic of this conversation as I've never bought an ely orb. I've fully upgraded 1 armour and made 2 ely orbs and have 1 large ore in store (total of about 300 ores), probably about 2/3 of them are from group hunts while I was in a large active guild, and about 1/3 are from solo.

Now that I am playing more casually and in a solo guild I have accepted that I will not be able to make any more, and I am focusing more on things that are achievable for me. Ely orbs are the pinnacle of endgame achievements, it would be ridiculous of me to expect to make more of them with my current level of activity and interaction.

Was not intentionally aimed at you, but its good that you admit that as a casual player its unachievable, therefore my personal circumstances (i am sure others as well) tell me if i cannot reach end game, so what`s the point? Says it all really. I have played since September 2023 and fairly active spent a few hard earned pounds i can tell ya and still not even close to a Source. I don`t have 5 hours a day to play, i`m not suggesting making it easy, just make it so it does not take over 2 years to make one fucking Orb.

 

[THEFMTT]

I am risking embarrassing myself here but I don't see the link between ElysianOre and the user count.

Its not just Ely ores, its every up gradable item. If you want to waste what spare time you have, hunting the impossible, crack on.

I work 40 hours a week and have three Children, i don`t have this time, and even if i did, i wont spend it chasing pixels.

Explain to why the servers goes very quiet as soon as an event has finished ?

 

[UnKnownAngel]

Its not just Ely ores, its every up gradable item. If you want to waste what spare time you have, hunting the impossible, crack on.

I work 40 hours a week and have three Children, i don`t have this time, and even if i did, i wont spend it chasing pixels.

Explain to why the servers goes very quiet as soon as an event has finished ?

It's true mate what you're saying and I too have a full time job working 40+ hours per week, with a family like yourself. I think the biggest thing what drives people away is the p2w aspect of the game more than the grind

 

[prasko]

Yea, a game with 500k active players is wrong while every other dying live service game is right.

Keep on that drip feed.

I feel a lot of people that are against this already have their upgraded kit, and are afraid of competition in the game.

But hey, imagine listening to the active players for once and not listening to those that sit in safe zone all day afk.

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[mundo1]

Its not just Ely ores, its every up gradable item. If you want to waste what spare time you have, hunting the impossible, crack on.

I work 40 hours a week and have three Children, i don`t have this time, and even if i did, i wont spend it chasing pixels.

Explain to why the servers goes very quiet as soon as an event has finished ?

Think we all get your point . This game is like a marathon not a sprint . It's about consistency. We have players that play about 10 hours a week . They come to do epics and BDP . And help out at war . If you get in with the right people /guild they will help you obtain ore . I doubt the GMs are gonna change anything to drastically with the ores now it's too late in the day . As like some Others have said it's like bit of a middle finger to the people that have worked hard to get it previously .

 

[UnKnownAngel]

Yea, a game with 500k active players is wrong while every other dying live service game is right.

Keep on that drip feed.

I feel a lot of people that are against this already have their upgraded kit, and are afraid of competition in the game.

But hey, imagine listening to the active players for once and not listening to those that sit in safe zone all day afk.

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