Open question to Andy

[DarkStyle]

No there's nothing under the "rare item" marker that has been released recently. I probably sound like a broken record by now but this was why the mythic stuff was added. I don't know if you were around at the time but we had endless remarks about "everyone is in the same kit" type thing with Holy Crystal. By this point we had already added Celestial but the issue was simply that the players didn't like having "1 ring to rule them all" type thing.

Please help me understand explicitly why you are not interested in eg Mythic ShadowZuma set vs Celestial?

Ancient items are still not released but are of course of pressing concern..

It is important that we build up a lot of supporting / group content like these RDD before we move onto the next push on level cap so that there's plenty to do as players start to out-level more content

p.s we miss your support :love_heart:

Thanks for the confirmation.
Do rare tag items have the possibility to become a rdd bonus item?

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I.e. celestial armour of red dragon? Or holy crystal ring of king hog?

 

[DarkStyle]

No there's nothing under the "rare item" marker that has been released recently. I probably sound like a broken record by now but this was why the mythic stuff was added. I don't know if you were around at the time but we had endless remarks about "everyone is in the same kit" type thing with Holy Crystal. By this point we had already added Celestial but the issue was simply that the players didn't like having "1 ring to rule them all" type thing.

Please help me understand explicitly why you are not interested in eg Mythic ShadowZuma set vs Celestial?

Ancient items are still not released but are of course of pressing concern..

It is important that we build up a lot of supporting / group content like these RDD before we move onto the next push on level cap so that there's plenty to do as players start to out-level more content

p.s we miss your support :love_heart:

The reason we don’t appreciate zuma mythic kit as opposed to celestial kit is purely down to the rarity of the item. The auction house prices tell you the story.
Celestial items are super rare to find. They are valuable to every class in the game. Only recently has Cele slightly dropped in price. A fresh 3 year old bracelet can demand 1000gg. Mythic zuma items are not rare. They’re very easy to find. Each item only has a very niche market to re sell. That is why they demand gg in the hundreds not the thousands. It’s like oh ye just another mythic item. Nothing to really shout out about. But a Cele item then bosh ur in the money for abit.

It’s like whisky. When the supply is low and the quality is high the price is high and it gathers a cult following. When it’s ur common jack daniels and supply is huge it’s just another cheap whisky that everyone’s got in they’re cupboards.

 

[Taunton0412]

Hard? I’ve soloed blue dragon already and 2 manned all the red dragons.
It’s not hard.
It’s too easy for people to make too end kit.
Nothing super rare anymore.
Boring

Log off then and stay logged off

 

[zad48231]

It’s like whisky. When the supply is low and the quality is high the price is high and it gathers a cult following. When it’s ur common jack daniels and supply is huge it’s just another cheap whisky that everyone’s got in they’re cupboards.

I like Jack Daniel's

 

[Alsiral]

The reason we don’t appreciate zuma mythic kit as opposed to celestial kit is purely down to the rarity of the item. The auction house prices tell you the story.
Celestial items are super rare to find. They are valuable to every class in the game. Only recently has Cele slightly dropped in price. A fresh 3 year old bracelet can demand 1000gg. Mythic zuma items are not rare. They’re very easy to find. Each item only has a very niche market to re sell. That is why they demand gg in the hundreds not the thousands. It’s like oh ye just another mythic item. Nothing to really shout out about. But a Cele item then bosh ur in the money for abit.

It’s like whisky. When the supply is low and the quality is high the price is high and it gathers a cult following. When it’s ur common jack daniels and supply is huge it’s just another cheap whisky that everyone’s got in they’re cupboards.

Nail on head springs to mind

 

[protusconp69]

I dont understand where do you people see the server is "dieing".
I've joined this server almost since the beginning and i can say the user count of 70-80 is pretty good and the server right now is healthy, i don't know when did you join the server, (probably Jun 2020 according to the "join date") but the number of 70-80 is really good, there was a time for more than a year the server count had 40-60 and there was no AH, meaning there was alot of 2nd characters doing stalls in BW, which means, half of the pop was stalls.
Right now you see like 8-9 stalls total with a pop of 85 at peak point hour.

Last year you saw alot more people playing the game because of the covid making us get in to lockdown.

The server have 7 years and people will keep coming and going all the time.
I keep making big breaks on the server alot of times as an example, and now im back since a week ago, from a 2-3 years break.

If you go to LOMNC you will see arcadia is always on top of the list and the server has 7 years.
Scorpian is a really good GM (hes only problem is the lack of comunicating with us)

Expect in the end of August for the numbers to decrease alot, because new world MMO will come out and i will be one of the players to go playing the game and make a break of mir again, but i will come back again, like most people will always do.

Player count is down and low, there is no disputing that, for me I feel a new province and it would be aimed at levels 160+ maybe more so 170+, for various reasons, there is enough content without n game for levels below that to master and conquer, where as higher levels get bored as areas at present, mobs can be lion roared, repulsed, tamed etc etc

If there was a new province, it would attract old players back and make it more alluring for current higher levels.

I’m sure I’m not saying anything that a lot of people don’t already think or what Andy already knows.

 

[Scorpian]

The reason we don’t appreciate zuma mythic kit as opposed to celestial kit is purely down to the rarity of the item. The auction house prices tell you the story.
Celestial items are super rare to find. They are valuable to every class in the game. Only recently has Cele slightly dropped in price. A fresh 3 year old bracelet can demand 1000gg. Mythic zuma items are not rare. They’re very easy to find. Each item only has a very niche market to re sell. That is why they demand gg in the hundreds not the thousands. It’s like oh ye just another mythic item. Nothing to really shout out about. But a Cele item then bosh ur in the money for abit.

It’s like whisky. When the supply is low and the quality is high the price is high and it gathers a cult following. When it’s ur common jack daniels and supply is huge it’s just another cheap whisky that everyone’s got in they’re cupboards.

So is it purely about prestige and not power?
Or is there something more to do with the fact a larger cohort of players can use the Super-Rare sets? (more demand)
Or maybe you feel that you will own the Super-Rare for a longer period? (whereas the Mythic upgrades are rinse and repeat every 4 levels)

"Mythics" are more common sure, but the right "mythic", might be 1 in 5 of that - is that not as rare as a Super-Rate?
Or is the problem here that there's 5 players who have different wants and needs and so they don't have to fight over that 1 in 5 because they have 5 mythics to share around


Thinking out loud a bit here but appreciate the feedback

 

[DarkStyle]

So is it purely about prestige and not power?
Or is there something more to do with the fact a larger cohort of players can use the Super-Rare sets? (more demand)
Or maybe you feel that you will own the Super-Rare for a longer period? (whereas the Mythic upgrades are rinse and repeat every 4 levels)

"Mythics" are more common sure, but the right "mythic", might be 1 in 5 of that - is that not as rare as a Super-Rate?
Or is the problem here that there's 5 players who have different wants and needs and so they don't have to fight over that 1 in 5 because they have 5 mythics to share around


Thinking out loud a bit here but appreciate the feedback

Yer pretty much all correct.

TAunton I dunno who u are but ur feedback is never about the issues in hand u always have to make things personal. Jog on pal.

 

[protusconp69]

So is it purely about prestige and not power?
Or is there something more to do with the fact a larger cohort of players can use the Super-Rare sets? (more demand)
Or maybe you feel that you will own the Super-Rare for a longer period? (whereas the Mythic upgrades are rinse and repeat every 4 levels)

"Mythics" are more common sure, but the right "mythic", might be 1 in 5 of that - is that not as rare as a Super-Rate?
Or is the problem here that there's 5 players who have different wants and needs and so they don't have to fight over that 1 in 5 because they have 5 mythics to share around


Thinking out loud a bit here but appreciate the feedback

Most of the higher levels tend to have duplicates of the main mythics that they want, and are probably just taking there time crafting to get them right, and AH tends to have a gluten amount of mythics on as they are far from rare. Rares don’t really exist at present, closest things are the new RDD items, which won’t be for long.
A new set similar to what celestial which drops from a new boss going forward is kinda the only way that could make rares rare.
Celestial is 160 so a new set would need to be 172+ if not higher.

That’s kinda my take on it !

 

[DarkStyle]

Most of the higher levels tend to have duplicates of the main mythics that they want, and are probably just taking there time crafting to get them right, and AH tends to have a gluten amount of mythics on as they are far from rare. Rares don’t really exist at present, closest things are the new RDD items, which won’t be for long.
A new set similar to what celestial which drops from a new boss going forward is kinda the only way that could make rares rare.
Celestial is 160 so a new set would need to be 172+ if not higher.

That’s kinda my take on it !

Mmmmmm yummy

 

[wummy]

tbh,i would never upgrade a Shadow Zuma item,if they go over Artefact you cant wear them at all,level cap need to get raised otherwise no 1 will try to upgrade that ShadowZuma gear at all,i think there a 1-2 players that wear decent ShadowZuma items. you also need to spend 100years upgrading them and even then they just slightly better than Celestial gear, the effort of upgrading Zuma gear compared to upgrading Celestial Gear is a real joke.


I also need to talk about RDD,yeah, it was a great idea to make it 4 dragons and the "AnicentDragon" but i dont think its worth it to waste 100´s of GG just because the YoungRedDragons are kinda stupid and not predictable,some attack some dont,and some hit like trucks? In the end the AncientDragon drops a few bars and some Mythics? if you want that you just can go ZT and get x5 of that without spending 100´s of GG

Are there Rare Items in the Drop file of AncientRedDragon ?

 

[protusconp69]

tbh,i would never upgrade a Shadow Zuma item,if they go over Artefact you cant wear them at all,level cap need to get raised otherwise no 1 will try to upgrade that ShadowZuma gear at all,i think there a 1-2 players that wear decent ShadowZuma items. you also need to spend 100years upgrading them and even then they just slightly better than Celestial gear, the effort of upgrading Zuma gear compared to upgrading Celestial Gear is a real joke.




I also need to talk about RDD,yeah, it was a great idea to make it 4 dragons and the "AnicentDragon" but i dont think its worth it to waste 100´s of GG just because the YoungRedDragons are kinda stupid and not predictable,some attack some dont,and some hit like trucks? In the end the AncientDragon drops a few bars and some Mythics? if you want that you just can go ZT and get x5 of that without spending 100´s of GG

Are there Rare Items in the Drop file of AncientRedDragon ?

RDD is designed as a group/guild hunt, therefore having the right balanced group there would be no reason to spend gg, once it’s done several times it’s easier to understand and plan in advance what to wear, pots etc etc. Spending loads of gg must mean your going wrong somewhere, so adjust something to help make it easier for the group your hunting with.

 

[wummy]

RDD is designed as a group/guild hunt, therefore having the right balanced group there would be no reason to spend gg, once it’s done several times it’s easier to understand and plan in advance what to wear, pots etc etc. Spending loads of gg must mean your going wrong somewhere, so adjust something to help make it easier for the group your hunting with.

not sure,going on 1 YoungRedDragon with 7 people and a few of us still die even when they lvl 170?

 

[liamstore]

The reason we donÂ’t appreciate zuma mythic kit as opposed to celestial kit is purely down to the rarity of the item. The auction house prices tell you the story.
Celestial items are super rare to find. They are valuable to every class in the game. Only recently has Cele slightly dropped in price. A fresh 3 year old bracelet can demand 1000gg. Mythic zuma items are not rare. TheyÂ’re very easy to find. Each item only has a very niche market to re sell. That is why they demand gg in the hundreds not the thousands. ItÂ’s like oh ye just another mythic item. Nothing to really shout out about. But a Cele item then bosh ur in the money for abit.

ItÂ’s like whisky. When the supply is low and the quality is high the price is high and it gathers a cult following. When itÂ’s ur common jack daniels and supply is huge itÂ’s just another cheap whisky that everyoneÂ’s got in theyÂ’re cupboards.

I have to agree with DS and some of the others , I think the whole mythic thing is okay , but itÂ’s time to introduce some super rare kit to surpass celestial . Call it what you like . Holy celestial or ancient celestial . I have found once getting to 170++with fully upgraded cele kit there isnÂ’t really much else you can do . The server is full of 178+ players in high lvl mythic kits . Or cele kits . There isnÂ’t really nothing to to chase beyond that or no super sexy OP end game gear to really separate the men from the boys . If a new super rare kit which was clearly better than anything was Released . I know a lot of the top players in the game would be on more hunting and pumping more money into the game . I myself dont want things to head in a direction where the whole server is 180 and all in the Same kits . Mythic stuff is cheap junk mostly .


Like previously stated the only thing thatÂ’s worth anything is cele , or maybe a mythic vengeance wep ? There isnÂ’t really any gear that worth getting excited for , HC gear has dramatically dropped and so Will cele soon . If there isnÂ’t anything in the game that can sell for any serious GG then people lose incentive to hunt . I have found the only real way to get some GG is to sell ess/des. And getting 6Star + and higher can be few and far between .

 

[Gritt]

I have to agree with DS and some of the others , I think the whole mythic thing is okay , but itÂ’s time to introduce some super rare kit to surpass celestial . Call it what you like . Holy celestial or ancient celestial . I have found once getting to 170++with fully upgraded cele kit there isnÂ’t really much else you can do . The server is full of 178+ players in high lvl mythic kits . Or cele kits . There isnÂ’t really nothing to to chase beyond that or no super sexy OP end game gear to really separate the men from the boys . If a new super rare kit which was clearly better than anything was Released . I know a lot of the top players in the game would be on more hunting and pumping more money into the game . I myself dont want things to head in a direction where the whole server is 180 and all in the Same kits . Mythic stuff is cheap junk mostly .


Like previously stated the only thing thatÂ’s worth anything is cele , or maybe a mythic vengeance wep ? There isnÂ’t really any gear that worth getting excited for , HC gear has dramatically dropped and so Will cele soon . If there isnÂ’t anything in the game that can sell for any serious GG then people lose incentive to hunt . I have found the only real way to get some GG is to sell ess/des. And getting 6Star + and higher can be few and far between .

Agree , refining items like Zuma etc past level cap is really silly , often the stats even at artifact is not worth it if you cant wear it compared to Cele or a well made lower lvl mythic.

One way to maybe eleviate this in the interim so people have the choice to refine 176 plus items without them busting the cap is maybe a minus lvl orb -
reduces the item lvl by 1 can only be applied on items 170 and above , it can drop from supers subs etc on a rare basis and is account bound , this would mean people could refine the items to max ability and usefulness use the orbs to keep it wearable .
Also the lack of certain types of drops past 166 is also reason why people are crying out for new higher level kit , e.g. weapons far to few drop over say 166 to make it viable to refine high level weapons so people are stuck with cele stuff also the adding 2 lvls to refine kit via quests is a little bit over the top , if you got a nice zuma brace for example and its wearable now it may not be after the quest due to it jumping levels