UnKnownAngel
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If the Italians could do it then why cant immortals? Not enough players or do you mean their style of play compared to yours
Boss Drops
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If the Italians could do it then why cant immortals? Not enough players or do you mean their style of play compared to yours
deanouk23
Active Member
Dunno you would have to ask scorp. When someone said it's over tuned, his reply was the Italians would make light work of it.
What drops are you actually talking about?
Item drops have never been higher, and they keep getting higher. If it's added stat kit then I am not surprised it feels like nothing drops because that stuff is rare and the perceived quality of those items will decrease as only the best highest gear stuff remains in game on display. Ie the first 10 red items ingame would be good, but the next 10 would need to be better to be considered "good" and so on. Only a small percentage of those items that drop are better than gear people are using after a long time.
Events may have mad rates, but you'd never sustain it, you'd end up making this thread again because everything has dropped.
I don't see anything unusual happening here. These threads crop up every now and again. Especially for such a long term game. You'd see the exact same on Diablo 3 forums. And this is why we constantly work on updates and fun events.
People were asking for a challenge, complaining that there was nothing to achieve. We gave you Loki.
Mob count wise, we spawn over 25k extra monsters during events. Server doesn't miss a beat.
TDB would drop to the equivalent of 80 Zuma Lord
All players must hunt to earn gold, otherwise what is the point in the economy
Item drops have never been higher, and they keep getting higher. If it's added stat kit then I am not surprised it feels like nothing drops because that stuff is rare and the perceived quality of those items will decrease as only the best highest gear stuff remains in game on display. Ie the first 10 red items ingame would be good, but the next 10 would need to be better to be considered "good" and so on. Only a small percentage of those items that drop are better than gear people are using after a long time.
Events may have mad rates, but you'd never sustain it, you'd end up making this thread again because everything has dropped.
I don't see anything unusual happening here. These threads crop up every now and again. Especially for such a long term game. You'd see the exact same on Diablo 3 forums. And this is why we constantly work on updates and fun events.
People were asking for a challenge, complaining that there was nothing to achieve. We gave you Loki.
Mob count wise, we spawn over 25k extra monsters during events. Server doesn't miss a beat.
TDB would drop to the equivalent of 80 Zuma Lord
All players must hunt to earn gold, otherwise what is the point in the economy
killa_nite
Active Member
This was the reply I expected. If your not pumping gg into the game your going to get shafted. "Long term" can mean alot of different things. When players can barely sustain hunting because the economy isnt there it's a problem. When mid levels quit because there's no light at the end of the tunnel it's a problem aswell.
No one's asking for anything amazing or for perma event rates, atleast that's what I can surmise. End game should always be difficult but when I make a ta, actually have gg and have been hunting a book for 2 weeks only to still not see it drop or show up in ah people get put off.
The server has a huge base off of gg. It's designed that way and anyone that says different most likely has a huge pocket book to Shell out loads to be setup well, it shouldn't be a donate or die model.
No one's asking for anything amazing or for perma event rates, atleast that's what I can surmise. End game should always be difficult but when I make a ta, actually have gg and have been hunting a book for 2 weeks only to still not see it drop or show up in ah people get put off.
The server has a huge base off of gg. It's designed that way and anyone that says different most likely has a huge pocket book to Shell out loads to be setup well, it shouldn't be a donate or die model.
It makes perfect sense that people are only interested in the top few % of items that drop. The best of the best.
People aren't interested in most of your drops because there's already so many in game.
Increasing drops rates doesn't alter that fact, it just means that more items drop that players are still uninterested with.
People aren't interested in most of your drops because there's already so many in game.
Increasing drops rates doesn't alter that fact, it just means that more items drop that players are still uninterested with.
JnavI
Active Member
I do get something, grinding a day if i am lucky i would get lvl 160+ 2-4 uni. Subs do drop 1-2 items too, those that deemed useless i’d just salv it. I don’t expect it to drop super rares all time just spoils the fun. I’m still after a celest armor, any1 selling let me know.
deanouk23
Active Member
Firstly, People wanted a challenge, But noto went to Loki in a group of 15 and spent 3 hours hitting it.... That is not a challenge, that's just stupid.
Drop rates have never been higher? That's laughable. But then looking at your post where you say TDB, which may be a powerful spell would take a new player 40 hours of camping a boss that they cant kill to get says it all.
Mob count. You state in the event we spawned over 25k mobs ect ect.. Yet places continue to be pulled down? For one example Lakes, Was never a fast place to level, used to have what 500+ mobs? now that's around 280 on floor 2? why is this? This is exactly what I am talking about, This happens in ever area over time. Desert mines may as well have 2 floors, the floor naga champ spawns and the floor mount spawns. Then City 4f, As any other floor mobs are so spread that its just a waste of time hunting them unless you want to make 2% an hour.
Brings me back to gold. You say people must hunt to make gold....when was the last time you checked the price of a gold bar? now upto 50 gg some days. Is this because no-one hunts gold? Nope, this is because the only way to make gold, is to go farming flowers.
Look you can just see this as people moaning and wanting everything on a plate. or you can actually try and engage with people to make the server more fun and actually retain some player base.
I watched as players (unprepared) hurled themselves at Loki with no consideration whatsoever even to my recommendations (it was still killed). Hence why I said the Italians could probably do it well.
Laugh all you want? Doesn't make it untrue. Sure it could take 40 hours but you'd spend 39 of them sitting about doing nothing. If that's how you want to play the game then fine but anyone else can be proactive about it and kill something other than Zuma Lord?
Don't know what you are talking about. I can't recall mob spawns in lakes ever changing. Obviously you know spawn rates can change with the number on players on a map.
Not every floor is supposed to be rammed. Some people don't want to or can't handle that. The server isn't just catered to what you want
That's because RD was removed for the coming updates and quite a lot was spent during the event
Have I engaged or not? You didn't even bother answering my question so I really don't even know what "anything" actually is
scrop gold drop rate is based on exp table isn't it ? so for me at lvl 168 its impossible to hunt and make gold as I get like 26k exp from mobs in crystal so the gold I get from them is based on that true ? even with the 60% Perk I still get little gold from hunting + if im hunting crystal ill pop a gold find pot aswell with added hp on it, also I need to pop a dura pot aswell as it costs me over 20 mill to repair my kit , so based on the gold vs exp , do I need to start poping a exp pot aswell to increase my gold drop rate ? over all then id be spending 10g on gold pot 6g on dura and 20gg on exp pot to try make myself some gold.
I enjoyed the Christmas event because of the higher lvled mobs / exp which I was actualy able to make like 4 to 5 mill a time while lvling . but now im resorted to hunting flowers as my only way to get gold to repair my kit
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what's your recommendations on loki then ?
I enjoyed the Christmas event because of the higher lvled mobs / exp which I was actualy able to make like 4 to 5 mill a time while lvling . but now im resorted to hunting flowers as my only way to get gold to repair my kit
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what's your recommendations on loki then ?
deanouk23
Active Member
Nah Creem that ain't it. We just lazy.
I typed a reply to you scorp but it timed out. So i cant be arsed to retype it. Everything is fine in game you are right.
When them donations dry up, Like mine did about an hour ago, right after your last post will we see change.
Best of luck.
I typed a reply to you scorp but it timed out. So i cant be arsed to retype it. Everything is fine in game you are right.
When them donations dry up, Like mine did about an hour ago, right after your last post will we see change.
Best of luck.
killa_nite
Active Member
We're all wrong lol. Just how it is I guess. I'd been considering buying a snow leopard neck to help me with bossing and a stone for khaz upgrade but I'll hit the brakes and wait it out until next event to spend my spare time and save some money. Exchange rate rapes anyways.
deanouk23
Active Member
Appears that way. I'll mostly be around for pk and wars, until I find a new adventure. But other than that I'm semi retired.
killa_nite
Active Member
I had a much longer response, timed out and cba.
Dont waste your cash às a guildy did the same thinges to help him hunt yet he's still waiting 3 weeks later for the pet to get fixed as it never evolved
deanouk23
Active Member
Add it to the list like pw and tao amulets
There’s big points flying about and two sides to every story! Personally I think it’s good scrop even reply’s to these posts (over and over again) and honestly I can see the thinking behind it.
However, scorp, riddle me this! Y can useless socket items that add a +2 stat sell for 1-2 mill gold, yet when you add them together and make a marble (it’s still useless) and sells for 500 gold?
Going bk to OP maybe a couple of these issues could be resolved and ppl wouldn’t complain about economics
However, scorp, riddle me this! Y can useless socket items that add a +2 stat sell for 1-2 mill gold, yet when you add them together and make a marble (it’s still useless) and sells for 500 gold?
Going bk to OP maybe a couple of these issues could be resolved and ppl wouldn’t complain about economics
Probably an oversight from when the upgrade system was added. Easy thing to fix when brought to our attention. Which socket?
Although exp is semi linked to gold, exp pots shouldn't increase gold take and I don't think it should slow down either at higher levels.
Anyway Deano don't know what you want from me. Don't know why I waste my time replying when you keep kicking off with me. Still don't even know what you want dropping
zad48231
Leading Contributor
He's talking about BloodStoneMarble, HematiteMarble, AzuriteMarble
The 0.3% and 0.4% ones sell to shop for 1 mill, and the 0.5% ones sell for 500 gold, I'd have expected them to be at least 3 mill so it's at least worthwhile to combine them to sell, or preferably a bit more
Edit: Nobody is likely to be selling those ones to shop anyway as they are more valuable and have an market for sale to players. I guess he might be meaning some of the other ones, my bad sorry haha
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deanouk23
Active Member
Not kicking off. Merely posted my opinions and experiences. It's more the antagonistic responses like we're all sat in safe zones waiting for gold to grow on tree's.
As for drops id settle for a white item or an orb every once in a while. Seems all you get most of the time is going to be a bene and a grinding oil. Now believe it or not becomes extremely boring quickly. Especially if you wanna group hunt,
But I'll leave it here, ain't really got anything more to say about it all. It's your server at the end of the day, we have the choice to play or not.
2dark_2teh1
Active Member
Think he just bored like a lot of us tbh, new content is needed faster and older content needs changed to get people to higher levels faster. There is more areas in the game that aren't ever touched than areas that actually are. How often do people visit floods, for example? People who didn't play P69 probably don't even know about it.
Content every few months can stop threads like this, if that isn't possible for you to do on your own maybe look into getting help from others.
Road map on where the game is heading would be nice as well, so we can give feed back on it. An active GM to fix bugs as soon as they happen would be nice too, we are still waiting for amulet fix.
Anyway these threads are only made because we actually care about the game, people who don't care just quit and don't give feed back and what good does that do except lower user base even further.