Why bother making kit

[zad48231]

The vast majority of gg/cash spent in this game is to make better kit. But I'm starting to wonder why we bother.

Theres zero challenge. The top level caves you can hunt easily in shop kit. I've been hunting in full exp kit, some of my items are level under 150, and it literally doesn't matter. Not once have I even come close to dying. Just wander through cave while watching Netflix and let the exp come

The cave and mob designs have so much promise and are really nice, I really do appreciate the effort that's gone in. But there needs to be a much higher risk/reward option to keep everyone engaged.

I logged on yesterday, prepared to so a solid geeking session, did about 10x 30gg caves, a quick run through main cave, saw the boss, couple more gg caves then logged off because I was bored.

Please give us a challenge. Might actually go back to my skull island characters, that was engaging content that was enjoyable up until the last couple of quests with the seemingly unobtainable items

 

[alfeardo]

Tbh skull island is better thn legs webs event it should have more quest fun mostly quests finish at lvl 140/150 and then light wep quest pain in ass tht crown after tht evilmir Duno which team wanna kill and take flame and I duno flame is per person or others can do if per person thn gm thin from bit down from his body

 

[zad48231]

Tbh skull island is better thn legs webs event it should have more quest fun mostly quests finish at lvl 140/150 and then light wep quest pain in ass tht crown after tht evilmir Duno which team wanna kill and take flame and I duno flame is per person or others can do if per person thn gm thin from bit down from his body

Yes I levelled hard for 4 days solo and got level 161, finished all quests except the main one that needs group and never found that crown...

It was very fun 4 days. But then I noticed nobody else seemed to be bothering. Everyone just leech exp in group and get Ely ores then stop. So nobody is trying to make kit for EM. I got fire guard and tried EM solo but no chance unfortunately

Did really enjoy the quests though, was nice to work through some engaging content!

I do like the legs and webs event, don't get me wrong. It's well designed and the mobs are cool. And I definitely think the legs and webs collection to trade for runes was a good idea. It's just boring because it's too easy. The level 195+ mobs are suitable for level 180 players. The 30gg caves should be solid red on minimap, make it 2x mobs and reduce time limit to 20 mins. So you have to really work to clear it fast enough to get to the boss at the end before timer runs out.

The exp could be reduced accordingly, it's already a bit too fast too. I calculated at the pace I was going, to get 197 to 200 would take me less than 50 hours of gameplay. It should be a lot slower than that imo. No such thing as a grind any more, I used to take pride in being at the top of rankings, and those who know will remember I was #1 for nearly 2 years back when it took effort to level. But I don't even hunt for exp any more because it means nothing when anyone can play part time and get level cap if they want to

 

[UnKnownAngel]

We need a fresh server

 

[zad48231]

We need a fresh server

Just need some content that isn't so easy

 

[Mustafa13]

Getting better gear makes a huge difference in PvP, which is really what Mir is all about. You level up, upgrade your gear, and find rare items so you can take on other players.

As you know, the game has cool features like castle wars and conquest challenges, where having strong gear and a solid team really pays off dude.

"Theres zero challenge. The top level caves you can hunt easily in shop kit."
That's bollox, I can name so many bosses you wouldnt be able to solo in shop kit, and many caves you wouldn't be able to level in with shop kit.

I am aware that wizard's BDP pets pretty much solo any boss
But how are you going to get them in the first place if you have shop gear? You wouldn't
Plus you'd get destroyed if you tried to actually level in any caves, instant death basically.

 

[Mustafa13]

Yes I levelled hard for 4 days solo and got level 161, finished all quests except the main one that needs group and never found that crown...

It was very fun 4 days. But then I noticed nobody else seemed to be bothering. Everyone just leech exp in group and get Ely ores then stop. So nobody is trying to make kit for EM. I got fire guard and tried EM solo but no chance unfortunately

Did really enjoy the quests though, was nice to work through some engaging content!

I do like the legs and webs event, don't get me wrong. It's well designed and the mobs are cool. And I definitely think the legs and webs collection to trade for runes was a good idea. It's just boring because it's too easy. The level 195+ mobs are suitable for level 180 players. The 30gg caves should be solid red on minimap, make it 2x mobs and reduce time limit to 20 mins. So you have to really work to clear it fast enough to get to the boss at the end before timer runs out.

The exp could be reduced accordingly, it's already a bit too fast too. I calculated at the pace I was going, to get 197 to 200 would take me less than 50 hours of gameplay. It should be a lot slower than that imo. No such thing as a grind any more, I used to take pride in being at the top of rankings, and those who know will remember I was #1 for nearly 2 years back when it took effort to level. But I don't even hunt for exp any more because it means nothing when anyone can play part time and get level cap if they want to

Claiming that levels 197 to 200 take only 50 hours to complete is highly inaccurate. If that were the case, a dedicated player would certainly have multiple characters at that level. Also, isn't your main character only level 198? Come on, be realistic.

Saying it takes 50 hours to go from level 197 to 200 is complete bollox. Why are you making that up? It's obvious that you're not speaking the truth, and the GM will see through it.

Let's not make leveling sound easier than it is. Especially when you don't even own a char thats 199 or 200.

 

[zad48231]

Claiming that levels 197 to 200 take only 50 hours to complete is highly inaccurate. If that were the case, a dedicated player would certainly have multiple characters at that level. Also, isn't your main character only level 198? Come on, be realistic.

Saying it takes 50 hours to go from level 197 to 200 is complete bollox. Why are you making that up? It's obvious that you're not speaking the truth, and the GM will see through it.

Let's not make leveling sound easier than it is. Especially when you don't even own a char thats 199 or 200.

Dude I've done spent about 8 hours levelling in this event and done 50% of level 197 on my tao, which many people say is the slowest class to level. I've spoken with people who are 199 and the exp comparison isn't that much different.

My wiz has been 198 since whenever the cap was raised. I don't bother levelling beyond that because I don't see any benefit to it and it's not fun. It's a game not a job. I'm just saying that anyone who wants to put that time in can do so very easily.

To say exp is slow is nonsense. It's easier than it's ever been. Saying I don't know how to level is embarrassing for you. I was first to cap when it was raised to 173, and 178, and 183, when levelling was a lot slower than it is now. Not that you would know, you just pay people to level for you, so sit yourself down

 

[Mustafa13]

Dude I've done spent about 8 hours levelling in this event and done 50% of level 197 on my tao, which many people say is the slowest class to level. I've spoken with people who are 199 and the exp comparison isn't that much different.

My wiz has been 198 since whenever the cap was raised. I don't bother levelling beyond that because I don't see any benefit to it and it's not fun. It's a game not a job. I'm just saying that anyone who wants to put that time in can do so very easily.

To say exp is slow is nonsense. It's easier than it's ever been. Saying I don't know how to level is embarrassing for you. I was first to cap when it was raised to 173, and 178, and 183, when levelling was a lot slower than it is now. Not that you would know, you just pay people to level for you, so sit yourself down

I'm not paying anyone to level me, been levelling myself. I've done roughly 30 hours or so of levelling.

30 hours to do 70%, and you're out here claiming to do 50% in 8hours. (not in gg cave, in public)
Why are you lying, you know the GM will see through this.

Sure you might be able to fool a few players, but you won't ever be able to fool GM. What you're saying and doing is just pointless.

 

[Mustafa13]

Also, I challenge you to log your Tao , click on the NPC to check your event mob kills, and post a full screenshot - I will do the same if you do so.

Since we're both level 197, this will reveal something, thus I dare you to do so.
If you don't, I think smart people will know what this means, whatever excuse you use won't work anyway.

 

[wummy]

violation my brother.

nah fr stop yappin none sense zade. DK is completly right there and you just trying to spread fake news

 

[zad48231]

I'm not paying anyone to level me, been levelling myself. I've done roughly 30 hours or so of levelling.

30 hours to do 70%, and you're out here claiming to do 50% in 8hours.
Why are you lying, you know the GM will see through this.

Sure you might be able to fool a few players, but you won't ever be able to fool GM. What you're saying and doing is just pointless.

30 hours to do 70%? That's 25 mins per 1%. With full exp kit and pot I'm making more than 1% per 30gg cave, which takes about 10 minutes, and then you have the vault which gives me another 5% every 15 caves. How are you so slow?

 

[zad48231]

After chatting ingame it turns out you're using free caves for levelling, which don't have enough mobs. So what's the point in trying to make a comparison. You choose to do it the slow way and call me a liar for doing it the fast way. Nice logic

 

[Gritt]

the EXP in GG cave is poor even with all the wisdom kit at 199 cost of gg cave versus exp just not worth it plus huge lag spikes in there and body drop turned on , i tt in telle kill the spawn things for legs and eyes to make apair of boots tele out cant be arsed with the exp its so poor , plus 1st day got a weaver item knowing i have to do X many caves just to build it was pain...

 

[alfeardo]

zade is right he can make what he want 50hour 200he can but he didn’t want pay Andy next vacation so he didn’t run and didn’t make and good updates
Spent almost 4k from 198 exp 86 now 199 exp 12%
And got 1 weaver ring after spent 2k or 2.5k
Happy for tht wow Andy great job

 

[zad48231]

zade is right he can make what he want 50hour 200he can but he didn’t want pay Andy next vacation so he didn’t run and didn’t make and good updates
Spent almost 4k from 198 exp 86 now 199 exp 12%
And got 1 weaver ring after spent 2k or 2.5k
Happy for tht wow Andy great job

You've misunderstood my point completely, please don't say what I want or don't want if it's not accurate

 

[CizWar]

the EXP in GG cave is poor even with all the wisdom kit at 199 cost of gg cave versus exp just not worth it plus huge lag spikes in there and body drop turned on , i tt in telle kill the spawn things for legs and eyes to make apair of boots tele out cant be arsed with the exp its so poor , plus 1st day got a weaver item knowing i have to do X many caves just to build it was pain...

I don’t know which way this game is going like in past event we got pheonixmir iteams non upgradable was ok this event he bring a kit with upgrade system on it like wtf why he is so much interested wasting our efforts let me explain now if i grind my ass in GG caves for a weaver weap and somehow i get a brace and a boot of course i have to upgrade them but i dont have time because i need a weap for me and what i do is i spent my weaver leg and eyes on my brace and boot now am 00 and at last day of event i get my weap what you expect from me go kill the silk in gg cave and tt ok if i did how much gg i will waste to reach this upgrade system for game it was ok like if i dont have time i will grind for ores later but for event what you want me to do grind my whole weak to upgrade my shit cmon like this is more strange then it was before like where this server is going can someone please stop this these things wont get new players even tho those who are playing game will lost intrest in game please stop this please there are alot of players who can’t afford that much of gg they want these iteams suppose they get an iteam from loot and they upgrade it grinding there arse after that luckily they get an armour what you want them to do sell the previous iteam even tho he needs it to upgrade his fkin armour i swear he will lost interest in game this thing way more harder then you expect to be stop this you have better thing to do like you bringed these weaver eye and legs now they need around 45 eye and 30 legs what you had to do is made a full upgrade weap with worth of 60 or even 80 eyes and 60 to 70 legs at least people had a chance to get what they wanted and to improve this thing make the loot dont drop these thing like if i want a weaver iteam i will search for me weaver eye and leg it will cost players less GG more enjoyable hope we wont see such event like this in past thanks alot

 

[Gritt]

Loyal points need fixing events people spend gold but same crap on offer we gave suggestions another event more gg more points yet nothing yet

 

[UnKnownAngel]

I don’t know which way this game is going like in past event we got pheonixmir iteams non upgradable was ok this event he bring a kit with upgrade system on it like wtf why he is so much interested wasting our efforts let me explain now if i grind my ass in GG caves for a weaver weap and somehow i get a brace and a boot of course i have to upgrade them but i dont have time because i need a weap for me and what i do is i spent my weaver leg and eyes on my brace and boot now am 00 and at last day of event i get my weap what you expect from me go kill the silk in gg cave and tt ok if i did how much gg i will waste to reach this upgrade system for game it was ok like if i dont have time i will grind for ores later but for event what you want me to do grind my whole weak to upgrade my shit cmon like this is more strange then it was before like where this server is going can someone please stop this these things wont get new players even tho those who are playing game will lost intrest in game please stop this please there are alot of players who can’t afford that much of gg they want these iteams suppose they get an iteam from loot and they upgrade it grinding there arse after that luckily they get an armour what you want them to do sell the previous iteam even tho he needs it to upgrade his fkin armour i swear he will lost interest in game this thing way more harder then you expect to be stop this you have better thing to do like you bringed these weaver eye and legs now they need around 45 eye and 30 legs what you had to do is made a full upgrade weap with worth of 60 or even 80 eyes and 60 to 70 legs at least people had a chance to get what they wanted and to improve this thing make the loot dont drop these thing like if i want a weaver iteam i will search for me weaver eye and leg it will cost players less GG more enjoyable hope we wont see such event like this in past thanks alot

Could not agree more.

Upgrading an OP item set adds value to that specific tier but having upgrade quest on EVERY set just adds a chore to players experience. People left WOW because the daily quest grind feels repetitive with no real purpose to it, this with the kill quota quest feels the same but with even less purpose

 

[Gritt]

In Andy’s defence he strives for balance
Events are ok I play gg cave hope for a nice item
I play the cave that’s my level
I pump gg or I don’t I roll the dice

Biggest issue is when you get a juicy item it rollls shit I mean a plus SA tinket with MC etc etc
Kill a red boss in a gg cave get a drop open it and it plus other class stats even though it’s your class stings no more than stings you feel how can this be right
Also with making items after events with your hard gotten esse and des only to turn up a plus lighting 13% on a warrior brace
You get my drift ….