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    TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Reason I made this thread is because once a wizard/warrior get their special rings they wear them 90% of the time... Whereas its the opposite for a tao, I'd rather not wear it 90% of the time, also when I played Pro my TaoSpec was just thrown onto a store character and left with the rest of the trash, don't think that's how it should be to be honest.

    Just want to get a few peoples opinions on this cos personally I think this should have a different type of power other than being a ParalysisRing, barely ever need a Para on a tao, Pro would be ideal for me personally as I always use a HeroPro / RoV..


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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Or maybe a pro and para to mix things up a bit
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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Pro and para would be op, that's like giving wars para and rev on 1 ring. Would be to much, Tao spec should be rev or pro yeah, not really any good as a para, even a non bugs clear ring might be good with the stats it has.
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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Like the idea of it just being a Revival ring to be honest - one that DOESN'T break when it hits dura 0, a clear ring would be pointless cos tao's have hiding :-/

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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Too much of an easy-mode ring for it to be a revival imo,

    I think a Pro ring would be fine.

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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Pro ring & Anti para.

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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    I think it makes sense for it to be a revival ring... At least then it has it's own unique power rather than either Pro or Para because that's what Wizards/Warriors get.
    It will have it's own value then too, instead of being pointless.
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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Taoists shouldn't wear pro rings... Revival is what it should be. Been wanting it to change from para ring to revival on p69 for a while. So it's actually usefull.
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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinerela View Post
    Pro ring & Anti para.
    lol people seriously want tao's to be easier even more?
    A pro ring on tao is just OP, tao's were never mean't to have a Pro ring.
    Game mechanics always should be:
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    Tbh now tao's have halfmoon + addition of a lot of DC, i thought para would be good enough but then again pets do all the tanking.

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    Para is not going to stop a warrior 1 hit tdb'ing you
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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Quote Originally Posted by Ftw View Post
    Para is not going to stop a warrior 1 hit tdb'ing you
    Do you mean FS? Tdb does less damage than FS. Also not getting 1 hit is very easy, you just have to want to avoid being 1 hit and subsequently taking precautions to avoid it (rev ring and/or pro ring). So yes, you are right that a para isn't going to stop being 1 hit, but avoiding it isn't a big deal anyway. (I hope this makes sense writing this just before I go to sleep).

    Correct me if I am wrong but are the stats something like 6 pr 2-6 sc/dc and it is a para? If so, that's already a decent amount of pr, already is a para, dc/sc is decent. I realise this is hard to imagine this early in the game but when speed gems/orbs start dropping frequently, tao specs can actually become far better than warr specs as you can easily max your speed then you get the extra pr too. So, although it is garbage now it could be epic in the distant future =/.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrecia View Post
    Do you mean FS? Tdb does less damage than FS.
    Not on these files. TDB completely ignores AC. As well as being a damage multiplier with 2 quick succession hits.

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    wrong FTW, tao moon is really not good for taos in this game, we never have more than like 2 mobs on us , and 99% of the time we have to group hunt, so what we need tao moon for? lol.
    and for the +DC on alot of items...... 82 AND 88 tao rings have NO DC on them, i lost like 30+ dc from lvl 65 gear dreamers to lvl 88 gear.... This is not good lol. DC is half our damage and u make ur weaker later game? makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahriel View Post
    wrong FTW, tao moon is really not good for taos in this game, we never have more than like 2 mobs on us , and 99% of the time we have to group hunt, so what we need tao moon for? lol.
    and for the +DC on alot of items...... 82 AND 88 tao rings have NO DC on them, i lost like 30+ dc from lvl 65 gear dreamers to lvl 88 gear.... This is not good lol. DC is half our damage and u make ur weaker later game? makes no sense.
    Seems silly, tao pets are based on DC so basically he has just halved your pet damage?

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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrecia View Post
    Do you mean FS? Tdb does less damage than FS. Also not getting 1 hit is very easy, you just have to want to avoid being 1 hit and subsequently taking precautions to avoid it (rev ring and/or pro ring). So yes, you are right that a para isn't going to stop being 1 hit, but avoiding it isn't a big deal anyway. (I hope this makes sense writing this just before I go to sleep).

    Correct me if I am wrong but are the stats something like 6 pr 2-6 sc/dc and it is a para? If so, that's already a decent amount of pr, already is a para, dc/sc is decent. I realise this is hard to imagine this early in the game but when speed gems/orbs start dropping frequently, tao specs can actually become far better than warr specs as you can easily max your speed then you get the extra pr too. So, although it is garbage now it could be epic in the distant future =/.
    The ring has 8 PR on it, but yeah you're right with a lot of orbs it can be better than Warr Specs, but that is making the ring good for Warrior's not Taos, so defeats the object of it being a TaoistSpecial..

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    wrong FTW, tao moon is really not good for taos in this game, we never have more than like 2 mobs on us , and 99% of the time we have to group hunt, so what we need tao moon for? lol.
    and for the +DC on alot of items...... 82 AND 88 tao rings have NO DC on them, i lost like 30+ dc from lvl 65 gear dreamers to lvl 88 gear.... This is not good lol. DC is half our damage and u make ur weaker later game? makes no sense.
    This is my exact point of it being almost useless, after rebirth tao's very rarely hit with their weapon as they have no DC, so what is the point in having a para as a special ring?
    You won't moan about losing that DC when you get level 90 SFB... That spell itself cains without the 200 SC on top of it, so when taos start to get that spell, warriors had better watch out

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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    taos dont need anything. we're great as we are =D

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    Or keep is as a para and give taos TDB, as it ignores AC they could actually jump in for risky bit hits again like euro if TDB was their skill too, and they'd be epic
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnKnownAngel View Post
    The ring has 8 PR on it, but yeah you're right with a lot of orbs it can be better than Warr Specs, but that is making the ring good for Warrior's not Taos, so defeats the object of it being a TaoistSpecial..



    This is my exact point of it being almost useless, after rebirth tao's very rarely hit with their weapon as they have no DC, so what is the point in having a para as a special ring?
    You won't moan about losing that DC when you get level 90 SFB... That spell itself cains without the 200 SC on top of it, so when taos start to get that spell, warriors had better watch out

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    Ahh true, I prefer playing warriors so that is what I was thinking of haha :).
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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Ideally it needs to be a pro/anti-para, then it would be something that taos would use all the time, if i bothered to get it the only occasion I would use it on is beating on lowbies with a GIM or filling in para spot for REL (which i dont even need). Rev rings themselves are a bunch of BS and I don't like them full stop.
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    Re: TaoistSpecial - Almost Useless

    Quote Originally Posted by Veya View Post
    Not on these files. TDB completely ignores AC. As well as being a damage multiplier with 2 quick succession hits.
    Just a singular hit here on heroes. But yes, it cuts AC exactly like thrust does. The damage multiplier is 1.5x when yellowed.
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